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Post by Jason on Jun 26, 2004 19:56:35 GMT -5
I accidentally deleted the e-mail that this newsblurb came in, so I can't directly quote it, but it's from TV Guide's "Entertainment News" newsletter: The British version of the reality TV series, "Big Brother," was pulled off the air on Thursday, June 17th because a riot broke out inside the flat. The housemates threatened to kill each other and had to be pulled apart by security guards. The article doesn't specify if all the houseguests or just a certain number of them were involved in the scuffle. It also doesn't say if the show is off the air for the rest of the season or if it was just pulled for that night because of the fight. Crazy people...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2004 20:29:15 GMT -5
In America, contestants would have been kicked out of the house within moments for actions like that. I mean, look at Justin (BB2) and Scott (BB4) who were both evicted due to violent behaviour and talk.
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Post by Jason on Jun 26, 2004 21:04:26 GMT -5
In America, contestants would have been kicked out of the house within moments for actions like that. I mean, look at Justin (BB2) and Scott (BB4) who were both evicted due to violent behaviour and talk. Yeah. I remember part of the blurb said in jest, "This never would've happened on Julie Chen's watch." Justin! I was trying to remember his name earlier. He's the one that pulled a carving knife on Krista, right? At any rate, our version of "Big Brother" begins airing on July 6th.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2004 21:49:59 GMT -5
Yeah. I remember part of the blurb said in jest, "This never would've happened on Julie Chen's watch." Justin! I was trying to remember his name earlier. He's the one that pulled a carving knife on Krista, right? At any rate, our version of "Big Brother" begins airing on July 6th. Haha... good ol' Nyquil swillin' Krista. Yup. No more than, like, a week and a bit on, Justin and Krista were kissin' and crap in the kitchen, and Justin pulled a knife on Krista and asked if she's be upset if he killed her. She was so drunk, she didn't even remember what the hell happened, and when asked about it when she was evicted, she still had no clue. However, that didn't stop her from filing suit against Big Brother and CBS about a yeat later claiming they didn't "protect" her. Krista went on to become engaged to fellow contestant Mike Boogie. The engagement ended a few months later.
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Post by merg on Jun 26, 2004 23:41:59 GMT -5
maybe this is a sign that human interaction can be very dangerous... and that can also be a sign that maybe the reality shows are starting to run their course (i'd be thankful for that)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2004 0:01:02 GMT -5
maybe this is a sign that human interaction can be very dangerous... and that can also be a sign that maybe the reality shows are starting to run their course (i'd be thankful for that) I most certainly hope this isn't the case. In case you can't tell by my endless knowledge of American Reality TV, I happen to love the genre, and would be disappointed if it were to start to vanish. There are some shows I can do without. "The Bachelor" and any variaton seem like a silly concept to me, based souly on the fact that the "dates" these people go on are so insanely out there and destined to be romantic, that they can't cope with NOT going to Mazatlan for an overnight date within their real life. Shows like "Survivor" and "Big Brother" on the other hand test a whole different part of a person. It's social interaction at its best - you see these people operate under extreme pressure... And, these people DO go through psychological exams to make sure they can handle something like this... I guess, sometimes, they just fare worse than expected.
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2004 0:21:22 GMT -5
Haha... good ol' Nyquil swillin' Krista. Yup. No more than, like, a week and a bit on, Justin and Krista were kissin' and crap in the kitchen, and Justin pulled a knife on Krista and asked if she's be upset if he killed her. She was so drunk, she didn't even remember what the hell happened, and when asked about it when she was evicted, she still had no clue. Yeah. She was plastered all right. I remember them showing the clip of what happened...and when he asked if she'd be upset if he killed her, she just kind of stared at him blankly and didn't respond. That was probably a symptom of watching the tapes after the fact and having family members and friends tell her that she should try and get some money out of the whole thing. Mike has since said that the marriage proposal wasn't even serious. It was just an attention-grabbing stunt that was thought up right before the last show when the winner was announced. I'd bet that the engagement lasted as long as it did because Krista probably didn't even know it was fake. I remember her seeming very emotional when he asked her.
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2004 0:32:09 GMT -5
maybe this is a sign that human interaction can be very dangerous... and that can also be a sign that maybe the reality shows are starting to run their course (i'd be thankful for that) Like Dan, I also hope that reality TV isn't on the wane. There are a lot of reality shows that I don't particularly like, but some of them are very good. I enjoy "American Idol," "Amazing Race," "Big Brother," and of course, "Survivor." This new show on NBC, "Action Star," could turn out to be good too. I like "Fear Factor" as well, but I never get to see it because I close at work on Monday nights. I'm not so fond of the dating shows. Even though these shows air for 2 or 3 months, they're filmed over something like a two week period. The idea that these people are expected to fall in love and want to spend the rest of their lives together in such a short amount of time is crazy. It's just not believable to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2004 17:00:53 GMT -5
I agree with you completely, Jason. Dating shows are just a BAD IDEA. People can't fall in love in 3 weeks and expect a lasting relationship... I have no idea how Trista and Ryan have lasted as long as they have!
I love the Amazing Race, Big Brother, American/Canadian Idol, and especially Survivor. I can do without Fear Factor and many of the like shows. Those aren't so much reality tv shows as they are just extreme game shows.
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Post by CRAIG: on Jun 27, 2004 21:19:26 GMT -5
Im so glad we have BB fans here!! Ill start up a BB5 USA forum!!!
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Post by merg on Jun 27, 2004 23:33:12 GMT -5
ugh! at Survivor.. that has to be one of the WORST reality shows ever... especially the fact they made an "all-star" show... the fact that these people needed more then 15 minutes of fame is pretty pathetic... i don't mind "Amazing Race" but even then, after season 2, i couldn't connect with any teams... it became extremely boring to me, (especially the fact that the team i usually chear for gets booted in the early stages whilst teams i despize make it to the final : i probably wouldn't be so anti-reality shows if it wasn't for the fact that SO many of them exist.. at least the WWE got out of it before their roster got filled with non-charismastic dreamers, which is something American Idol should think about, give the show a break so it can be fresh when you bring it back. As it is now, the show has lost it's integrity (automatic dialers are ruining it, as well as freaks voting for the "cool" rather then the talent) and that makes it pretty bad... Canadian Idol isn't exactly a launching ground for superstardom, though Ryan Malcolm had decent support, he's nowhere near the level of popularity that someone like Kelly Clarkson is. Fear Factor is more or less a show to display how stupid people can be for cash, 100,000$ to do some of the most stupid shit ever made.. eating 100 year old eggs or whatever, how pointless is that? i can't really take a stab at Big Brother, i never watched a full episode (caught about 10 minutes worth of one episode a couple of years ago) and i wasn't drawn in. the other shows... well i don't watch them really (except for Surreal Life), i caught a few of those, and it was just so annoying to see how egomaniacal these "stars" are.. and to add to that is they put some people that weren't even stars! anywho, they should really cut back.... sure they are cheap, but with all the crap they put, the other networks figure that dumbass sitcoms (such as Method & Red and Quintuplets) can compete, making the whole television set a waste of time seeing as nothing with real effort is being put in... Just my two cents
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2004 23:55:10 GMT -5
I agree with you completely, Jason. Dating shows are just a BAD IDEA. People can't fall in love in 3 weeks and expect a lasting relationship... I have no idea how Trista and Ryan have lasted as long as they have! I think they're probably the exception to the rule...although I DID hear that Erin and the guy that she picked from last year's "For Love Or Money 2" are engaged and soon to marry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2004 23:57:52 GMT -5
While I love reality TV, at the same time, I can understand where you're coming from, Ben...
There ARE too many of then, and I'm sure everybody can agree with that. I think that too many networks are trying to cash in on the success of one show that the concept gets overdone.
If you had to pick only 5 reality TV shows to stay on the air, which would they be?
1. Survivor - Survivor and The Apprentice are in theory the same show, with the only difference being the decision on who gets the boot. However, Survivor combines the human conflict with that of the physical challenge (that being starvation, being uncomfortable, etc).
2. The Amazing Race - This show is great because it doesn't matter how popular you are. It allows the analysis of pre-existing relationships, put under pressure, and has smarts involved.
3. American Idol - The show America has a hand in. Talent is always a draw, which is why AI has been so successful. The fact that the viewer also has a say in the outcome adds some.
4. The Mole (R.I.P.) - This was the thinking man's reality show. This is another where popularity wasn't key, and you actually had to pay attention to succeed. It's a shame ABC ruined it with those damned Celebrity versions and then just canceled it.
5. Big Brother - When you think about it, Big Brother is just a slightly different version of Survivor, but much more of this game is left to the individual. Alliances are still present, but then Head Of Household plays an important part. This also analyses human dynamics under pressure, but not the physical challenges of Survivor.
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Post by Jason on Jun 28, 2004 0:18:27 GMT -5
Those are 5 great picks if that choice ever needed to be made by TV execs. I would agree with all of those. It would be a tough choice between "The Apprentice" and "Survivor," but I think you're right. "Survivor's" more appealing because of the physical challenges and how they effect the game. And "Big Brother" is "Survivor" without the physical challenges. It just takes the mental game of "Survivor" and intensifies it to the "n"th degree. I couldn't imagine being stuck in a small house with 10 or 11 other people that I didn't get along with and that I was competing with for a large amount of money. At least on "Survivor," you're out in nature, so if you need to get away from an annoying person, you can take a walk.
I liked "The Mole" too. I only really got to watch the debut season of it, because my work schedule changed and I lost track of it from there on out. Too bad the network wasn't devoted to it. Then again, I guess they thought the average viewer watches TV so they won't have to think...which is the whole point of watching "The Mole."
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