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Post by CRAIG: on Oct 11, 2003 21:38:28 GMT -5
Definately R&R/MB!
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Post by FreakyFlyBry on Oct 11, 2003 21:56:24 GMT -5
I'm also going with R&R/Mediabase, I've always viewed them as the true charts, and I don't trust Billboard.
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Post by merg on Jan 28, 2004 22:43:55 GMT -5
does Billboard even really matter?
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Post by Bebe Reptar on Feb 7, 2004 10:09:57 GMT -5
R&R/Mediabase
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Post by Drew on Feb 7, 2004 20:08:31 GMT -5
R&R/Mediabase
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Post by Arson on Feb 23, 2004 0:01:31 GMT -5
R&R/Mediabase, for sure.
I mostly look at Billboard for album sales.
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Post by william on Feb 23, 2004 5:45:38 GMT -5
I was the only one who picked Billboard. Partly out of nostalgia since I can remember when I bought my first copy at a young age and the enjoyment I got out of reading it. The only reason I still like it is the HOT100 Airplay chart. It is the best representation of what MOST Americans are listening to.
The best radio/chart coverage on all formats is still R&R. Looking at Billboard's sister publication Airplay Monitor when I had the chance was very disappointing.
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Post by CRAIG: on Mar 2, 2004 17:38:22 GMT -5
I mostly look at Billboard for album sales. Ditto.
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Post by dragoneyez on Mar 22, 2004 17:42:17 GMT -5
R&R/MB...
They are the only truly accurate charts. I don't like the whole "audience impression" way of guaging songs, because it makes it too easy for payolla'd songs to get unfair advantages. The only real reason to even look at BBoard is the album sales.
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Post by billcs on Apr 2, 2004 22:48:00 GMT -5
I am a long-time follower of Billboard, longer than most people on this board have been around. It is the best source of data in the biz. And it's the best source for following trends and sales.
However in recent years I've preferred the R&R charts because they seem to be a better reflection of what is being played at radio. And I guess that's where my major interest is.
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Post by Keith3000 on Apr 3, 2004 5:08:27 GMT -5
I actually won't vote here because it's hard to decide. I assume we're only talking about singles charts here. For albums, obviously Billboard is better because R&R doesn't have an album chart! So as far as sales go, Billboard is the chart to look at.
As for singles charts, it's hard to say. We shouldn't compare apples and oranges here, ie. comparing the Hot 100 with the CHR/Pop chart really makes no sense because they're actually two totally different charts. The Hot 100 takes into consideration all musical formats, sales, and audience impressions, whereas the R&R pop chart only considers pop spins. This being said, if you want a good representation of what pop radio plays, then obviously don't look at the Hot 100.
It makes more sense comparing charts for particular formats, ie the R&R CHR/Pop chart with the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream, the R&R Alternative chart with the Billboard Modern Rock chart, the R&R Hot AC chart with the Billboard Adult Top 40 chart etc. That being said I think R&R is more accurate because it considers only spins. Audience impressions at first may seem more accurate because it considers the population, but then I feel it's too vague.
R&R, however, has no Hot 100 equivalent, which I feel is an extremely important chart as it shows which songs have the most multi-format appeal. It may be true that nowadays the Hot 100 seems to favor R&B tracks more than others, but then those are the songs that get played the most on a variety of formats, so the chart is accurate in that sense.
I've said this before -- if all songs that were released to radio were also released as singles, it would greatly increase the accuracy of the Hot 100. Combining sales and airplay when only a few songs actually get commercially released will definitely lead to some chart inaccuracies.
Ok I need a rest... ;D
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Post by redbrow on Apr 3, 2004 17:33:59 GMT -5
Let's also not forget that R&B stations overall have higher ratings in the larger markets. That's the main reason why R&B tracks chart higher. If the listenership dropped, that would be reflected in the HOT 100.
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Post by billcs on Apr 3, 2004 22:05:56 GMT -5
I've said this before -- if all songs that were released to radio were also released as singles, it would greatly increase the accuracy of the Hot 100. Combining sales and airplay when only a few songs actually get commercially released will definitely lead to some chart inaccuracies. I agree with that statement, however the music industry doesn't see the single as a viable sales format anymore. Don't see this changing any time soon. Even in the U.K., the format is dwindling in sales, which is a shame.
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Post by I Got Soul. on Apr 10, 2004 10:40:57 GMT -5
I go with Mediabase. 100 %
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Post by Adonis-Love on Apr 26, 2004 14:00:11 GMT -5
Let's also not forget that R&B stations overall have higher ratings in the larger markets. That's the main reason why R&B tracks chart higher. If the listenership dropped, that would be reflected in the HOT 100. Agreed. That's what makes Billboard more accurate wether or not people like it or not. Listenership is a reflection of what people want to hear. If people wanted to hear more pop oriented material on the radio then pop stations would have a higher listenership. Wether or not any of us like it Billboard is the most accurate.
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