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Post by sExy SURFBOARDT! on Feb 6, 2016 18:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by Matt on Feb 7, 2016 3:32:57 GMT -5
Not minding this. Play!
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J.T.
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Post by J.T. on Feb 7, 2016 3:55:15 GMT -5
You might be ghetto is you call smoking weed a date, call your man baby boo, still wear a jacket with fur on the hood, if your hair looks like some bees are living in it (i.e., it's a beehive), wear colored contacts, and well...you get the idea. Beyonce is so f*cking ghetto. Obviously not in real life. So what the f*ck is she doing in this song? By phrasing things in this manner she is perpetrating negative stereotypes. I am offended by her at this point and this song continues her downward trajectory. Where's Rhianna. I need quality music.
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Post by Sam I Am on Feb 7, 2016 4:10:32 GMT -5
Sorry but this is as dreadful as that new Rihanna song. Or maybe I'm just getting old
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Post by Vic on Feb 7, 2016 9:47:52 GMT -5
Nope. Can we go back to a time when female singers actually recorded good songs.
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Post by billcs on Feb 7, 2016 11:40:53 GMT -5
I like the video better than the song, great New Orleans locale shooting. It's a bit more in your face than your usual Beyonce song and is definitely empowering for young black girls/women. I like it and it gets a Play but I don't think it's intended as a first 'single'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 12:53:01 GMT -5
Y'know, at first I thought this was so exactly the opposite of what I was expecting that I didn't mind it...but after listening to it again it's AWFUL! Trash.
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Post by Julian on Feb 7, 2016 16:48:01 GMT -5
Undecided.
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Post by lyhom on Feb 10, 2016 6:49:52 GMT -5
slight play, I like the samples, although the sound is getting slightly stale from her and it goes on for about a minute too long
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Post by AngelWarriorCim on Feb 14, 2016 13:12:40 GMT -5
This is horrible.
Trash.
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Post by Devyn on Feb 15, 2016 2:19:36 GMT -5
You might be ghetto is you call smoking weed a date, call your man baby boo, still wear a jacket with fur on the hood, if your hair looks like some bees are living in it (i.e., it's a beehive), wear colored contacts, and well...you get the idea. Beyonce is so F*cking ghetto. Obviously not in real life. So what the F*ck is she doing in this song? By phrasing things in this manner she is perpetrating negative stereotypes. I am offended by her at this point and this song continues her downward trajectory. Where's Rhianna. I need quality music. This reeks of racism. First calling people ghetto is racist, black folks, especially women, have been discriminated against and attacked for their hair forever, and this post further stigmatizes black folks for simply having hair. Her hair is fine. She's not perpetuating negative stereotypes really, I feel like she's trying to send a message. I'm white so I'm certainly not the authority on what is and isn't racism so I found this: www.vulture.com/2016/02/roundtable-discussion-beyonce-formation-blackness-feminism.html#. It's a group of black folks, mostly women, talking about their relationship to this song and video. Super interesting. Food for thought.
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Post by Matt on Feb 15, 2016 2:24:00 GMT -5
I thought this was funny
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Post by J.T. on Feb 15, 2016 14:34:45 GMT -5
You might be ghetto is you call smoking weed a date, call your man baby boo, still wear a jacket with fur on the hood, if your hair looks like some bees are living in it (i.e., it's a beehive), wear colored contacts, and well...you get the idea. Beyonce is so F*cking ghetto. Obviously not in real life. So what the F*ck is she doing in this song? By phrasing things in this manner she is perpetrating negative stereotypes. I am offended by her at this point and this song continues her downward trajectory. Where's Rhianna. I need quality music. This reeks of racism. First calling people ghetto is racist, black folks, especially women, have been discriminated against and attacked for their hair forever, and this post further stigmatizes black folks for simply having hair. Her hair is fine. She's not perpetuating negative stereotypes really, I feel like she's trying to send a message. I'm white so I'm certainly not the authority on what is and isn't racism so I found this: www.vulture.com/2016/02/roundtable-discussion-beyonce-formation-blackness-feminism.html#. It's a group of black folks, mostly women, talking about their relationship to this song and video. Super interesting. Food for thought. On first read you make some excellent points. You construe my joke as racism. I felt bad for a moment as I intended this as a joke and did not realize it could be construed as racism, but then I began to see your logical fallacies. They are primarily built on your social constructions of race. My post does not mention or even insinuate race even once. Only you make that connection. So here we go...First, you seem to mistake ghetto for African American. Ghetto does not equate to race. Many races live in ghettos. I have visited ghettos in Brazil, Peru, Mexico, North Korea, and more. These ghettos had no African-American individuals living in them. Heck, I used to live in Houston's Third Ward. You perhaps need to look inward as you're the individual equating ghetto with African-American. The second logical fallacy is hair. I find most white women have hair as well as black women. I venture to say 99.99% of women have hair, not only black women. Some women choose hairstyles that are out-dated. The beehive is a style that originated with white southern women in the 1950s. Thus, saying beehive is if anything a knock on white southern women from the 1950s moreso than Beyonce. If you want to understand African American attitudes toward hair you should watch Chris Rock's documentary titled "Good Hair." It is a scary look at feelings of inferiority in black communities about their hair. I maintain that this song perpetrates negative stereotypes of the impoverished in the USA. Too many of these individuals are black. Some are also white, Asian, first nations, and more. Racism is not acceptable. You seem to equate a lifestyle based on low income and inner city with black ghetto. You are not alone but I believe this is unacceptable. In the USA we celebrate cultural diversity and it must remain this way. But low education and living inner-city does not equate to black culture. That is offensive to me and hopefully you. I hope you go back to my post and see there are zero mentions or even insinuations of race. ZERO. Only you make that leap. My experience informs me that your leap is based on your preconceived notions of race - these exist within you and not in a global reality.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 1:48:24 GMT -5
This reeks of racism. First calling people ghetto is racist, black folks, especially women, have been discriminated against and attacked for their hair forever, and this post further stigmatizes black folks for simply having hair. Her hair is fine. She's not perpetuating negative stereotypes really, I feel like she's trying to send a message. I'm white so I'm certainly not the authority on what is and isn't racism so I found this: www.vulture.com/2016/02/roundtable-discussion-beyonce-formation-blackness-feminism.html#. It's a group of black folks, mostly women, talking about their relationship to this song and video. Super interesting. Food for thought. On first read you make some excellent points. You construe my joke as racism. I felt bad for a moment as I intended this as a joke and did not realize it could be construed as racism, but then I began to see your logical fallacies. They are primarily built on your social constructions of race. My post does not mention or even insinuate race even once. Only you make that connection. So here we go...First, you seem to mistake ghetto for African American. Ghetto does not equate to race. Many races live in ghettos. I have visited ghettos in Brazil, Peru, Mexico, North Korea, and more. These ghettos had no African-American individuals living in them. Heck, I used to live in Houston's Third Ward. You perhaps need to look inward as you're the individual equating ghetto with African-American. The second logical fallacy is hair. I find most white women have hair as well as black women. I venture to say 99.99% of women have hair, not only black women. Some women choose hairstyles that are out-dated. The beehive is a style that originated with white southern women in the 1950s. Thus, saying beehive is if anything a knock on white southern women from the 1950s moreso than Beyonce. If you want to understand African American attitudes toward hair you should watch Chris Rock's documentary titled "Good Hair." It is a scary look at feelings of inferiority in black communities about their hair. I maintain that this song perpetrates negative stereotypes of the impoverished in the USA. Too many of these individuals are black. Some are also white, Asian, first nations, and more. Racism is not acceptable. You seem to equate a lifestyle based on low income and inner city with black ghetto. You are not alone but I believe this is unacceptable. In the USA we celebrate cultural diversity and it must remain this way. But low education and living inner-city does not equate to black culture. That is offensive to me and hopefully you. I hope you go back to my post and see there are zero mentions or even insinuations of race. ZERO. Only you make that leap. My experience informs me that your leap is based on your preconceived notions of race - these exist within you and not in a global reality. To be fair, the "ghetto" things you were talking about in your original post are not really relevant in Peru, Brazil or North Korea. Hell, they really aren't even relevant in White or Hispanic "ghettos" in the United States. These are concepts and styles relevant to poor black neighborhoods in this country, such as much of New Orleans where this video seems to be based. Beehive hair, Colorful contacts and calling your man baby boo are stereotypes of "ghetto" black women just like leapord-print pants and calling your man papi are stereotypes of "ghetto" Hispanic women. Gaudy fake lashes, glitter and cheap fake nails are stereotypes of "white trash" or "ghetto" white women. You didn't exactly pick universal stereotypes that are put on "ghetto" women of all races and ethnicities like revealing clothing or potty mouth, you went for things that at least in my mind specifically target black women. Then there's this song, which explicitly deals with being black. Not impoverished, but impoverished and black. She's even going as far to use the word "Negro" several times, something very rare for a mainstream artist. I have no real issue with your original post, but I think you were rather unfair with this reply. Just my opinion. To me the song is a mess, so I say trash it.
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Post by JessieLou on Feb 20, 2016 10:28:24 GMT -5
Trash it.
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