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Post by MIKEB on Feb 3, 2015 18:03:12 GMT -5
That's fair. I guess it just comes with experience or education. I figure most intelligent people would know not to assume something so shallow about someone with acne who is also overweight. But then you can also think of it as they're doing you a favour by assuming what they did because, as I said above, how you assume something says more about you than it does them. If assumed the worst about you, they're probably not worth it anyway.
It's a two way street I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 18:38:54 GMT -5
I disagree, plus these people all probably take care of themselves very well, and even if they didn't, I think it's very wrong to judge someone for that, tbh, I think it's very wrong to judge somebody about anything, but looks especially, they tell you little to nothing about the person, and you don't know anything about them, people dressed in any kind of clothing could be the nicest of people I think you're mistaking the idea of what 'judging' is. Judging someone doesn't always have to be a purely negative thing. It's not judging that's bad, it's how you judge that matters. We all form opinions on people we see for the first time. That's what first impressions are. And first impressions can be pretty hard to change. And looks can tell you a LOT about people. It's more than simply clothes people wear or how they do their hair. I'm talking about things like presentation. Facial expression, how they wear the clothes they wear, how they simply present themselves. Are they confident? Shy? Cocky? If you google photos of people you don't know, I bet we could all come up with a general idea of what type of person they are based on how they look. Not their look as in their face or things they have no control over, but how they look as in how they choose to present themselves. But also think about, if you see a man wearing tattered clothing who obviously hasn't shaved and showered in weeks, you're going to form an opinion on him. Now, the opinion you form is what matters here and I think is what you're referring to. You're going to think one of two things: a. he's a bum and you might consider him lower than you are, or b. he's in an unfortunate position in his life. If you're capable of having compassion, there's nothing wrong with judging people as long as you're fair. My thoughts are, you grab people with your looks and you keep them with your personality. That works in nearly any situation. Dating, employment, friends. How someone chooses (choice being the key point!) to present themselves tells other people about their personality. How you make yourself appear is like speaking a language to people you might never get to talk to but who will see you. And all of this goes beyond brand names and luxorious clothes - because those are the things that don't matter, unless they matter to you. I guess that's kind of true, but a lot of it is due to stereotypes, so as long as you give them a chance for perceiving someone incorrectly, since we're all human, and everyone is an individual, I guess it's not too bad (as long as you don't make very negative stereotypes
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Post by MIKEB on Feb 3, 2015 20:26:47 GMT -5
I don't think I've explained it very well but to make it simple, judging someone on their looks and making fun of someone on their looks are two different things. You can learn a lot about someone based purely only on looks and be accurate in that assessment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:41:22 GMT -5
I don't think I've explained it very well but to make it simple, judging someone on their looks and making fun of someone on their looks are two different things. You can learn a lot about someone based purely only on looks and be accurate in that assessment. Right, I understand you, and I agree, but I still think that you shouldn't imply that you know something about that person just because of how they look, which sadly I think some people do Still though, I try my best not to judge people, because I've learned that people are usually far different then they appear (usually in a good way!!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:59:39 GMT -5
I'm surprised Kid Rock is at the bottom of the list as he usually ranks high on them. Haha, glad you caught that. I never thought of him as an ugly guy, but since he referred to himself that way I thought it appropriate to kick off the list that way. Would do: AJ, Channing, Ronda and Demi. I think Missy and Pink would eat me alive. LOL! This post made my day!
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Post by MIKEB on Feb 3, 2015 21:08:04 GMT -5
I still think that you shouldn't imply that you know something about that person just because of how they look, which sadly I think some people do No, most people do because it's kind of what's supposed to happen. Think of it this way, if you purposely put effort into specific things about yourself and how you look, you're putting effort into telling other people, through ways other than language, like how you look, what kind of person you are - something about your personality, something about your interests, etc. If I see someone wearing a Metallica t-shirt, it's a natural assumption that they like Metallica, or at the very least, they like rock music. It's simply doing a character assessment on someone before meeting them. It's psychology. You might even say it's an inborn natural reflex humans have to help us determine if another human is approachable or not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 21:18:07 GMT -5
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Post by sExy SURFBOARDT! on Feb 4, 2015 3:31:42 GMT -5
I personally find Lea to be beautiful, but to each their own.
Here's my thoughts on first opinion: Eveyone has one, but don't let that prevent you from giving that person a chance, and NEVER use it to make fun of someone... that shit is cruel. I always look for the best in people, bullying has happened to me all of my life, so I try to give compliments and things to everyone and I just want to spread a feeling of comfort with your looks. (Even if I'm not that confident, I try my best to be outgoing and I think I do a good job most of the time!)
I always have a hard time with my friends who feel they are fat or ugly, I don't ever want someone to feel down about the way they look... Everyone is beautiful in a different way, and as long as you have accepted who you are (or are trying to get to a place you're comfortable being at... WITHOUT damaging yourself) then you should never feel "ugly." I want my friends (and everyone really) to be positive about themselves!
Welp. It's 2:30 AM, and I have school tomorrow... I'm out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 4:11:03 GMT -5
I personally find Lea to be beautiful, but to each their own. Here's my thoughts on first opinion: Eveyone has one, but don't let that prevent you from giving that person a chance, and NEVER use it to make fun of someone... that shit is cruel. I always look for the best in people, bullying has happened to me all of my life, so I try to give compliments and things to everyone and I just want to spread a feeling of comfort with your looks. (Even if I'm not that confident, I try my best to be outgoing and I think I do a good job most of the time!) I always have a hard time with my friends who feel they are fat or ugly, I don't ever want someone to feel down about the way they look... Everyone is beautiful in a different way, and as long as you have accepted who you are (or are trying to get to a place you're comfortable being at... WITHOUT damaging yourself) then you should never feel "ugly." I want my friends (and everyone really) to be positive about themselves! Welp. It's 2:30 AM, and I have school tomorrow... I'm out. I'm sorry to hear that You're amazing, and I don't understand why anyone would say such mean things about you
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Post by Matt on Feb 4, 2015 5:38:45 GMT -5
You think Lea looks like a 'straight up dragon'? I think she's lovely looking, personally. It blows my mind how different Ellen looks with and without makeup, but she is in her 50's, so I mean, really. No-one can escape aging unfortunately.
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Post by sExy SURFBOARDT! on Feb 4, 2015 14:19:21 GMT -5
You think Lea looks like a 'straight up dragon'? I think she's lovely looking, personally. It blows my mind how different Ellen looks with and without makeup, but she is in her 50's, so I mean, really. No-one can escape aging unfortunately. But she has Cover Girl!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 22:37:10 GMT -5
You posted Pink way too early! I HATE her, not because of her face, but it also plays a role. You better not mention Tyler Hoechlin in this list, or I'll skin you alive!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 0:58:18 GMT -5
WHAT?? Dave Matthews is beautiful!!! Something's wrong with you jajajajajajajaja
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 2:28:45 GMT -5
WHAT?? Dave Matthews is beautiful!!! Something's wrong with you jajajajajajajaja A lot is wrong with me lol. And you are the first person I've heard say that about Dave.
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