plannine
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Post by plannine on Dec 4, 2006 22:47:36 GMT -5
NAS - Hip Hop is Dead I don't know if i should cry or throw up.
While In-a-gadda-da-vida was fun in 1968 to dance to, it's not something that i've listened to much over the last 35+ years.
Either rap is desperate for anything that might sound like music, or it has run out of stuff to rip-off.
Hopefully this one will die quickly.
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Post by M! on Dec 4, 2006 23:09:38 GMT -5
^Are there any urban tracks that you do like?
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Post by Gerardo on Dec 4, 2006 23:29:39 GMT -5
^I'm wondering.
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Post by qnx100 on Dec 5, 2006 0:09:07 GMT -5
Hot 97 has had this in regular rotation for several weeks now. I think it's a great song. ;D
The album is due out on the 19th of December.
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plannine
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Post by plannine on Dec 5, 2006 8:34:07 GMT -5
^Are there any urban tracks that you do like? Very few. As a musician, i just don't get it. While the 'beats' are there, it is usually pretty hollow. (or would that be shallow?) The few i've enjoyed alot have been non-english tracks, usually French, Japaneese or Spanish. I guess at least in another language, it doesnt sound so monotonous. Rap (when it started) was supposed to be the anti-disco - i.e. keeping it real. Now it's become nothing but image & sound-bytes, and as fake as a three-dollar bill. I'd rather listen to traditional R&B, Funk & Blues. [edited portion] As far as Rap/Hiphop, i'll take dAkah Orchestra for use of rap & hiphop over most of the current U.S. hit acts. Im not sure where groups like Rip Slyme and Korn would be categorized, but i like some of their stuff. I also enjoy many of the early (late 60's/early 70's) New York Jamacian DJ's and their mix of their voice with music. (but the art was in their performance - the mix and encouragement the to dancers). Im sure there are many others - it's just the don't get played. Many female artists, who mix rapping and singing are enjoyable, as long as i dont get endless 'potty mouth' during the rapping parts of a song. A opera can cover murder, perversion and 101 illegal & immoral topics without swearing, so i think even rap could get a bigger dictionary.
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Post by Courage on Dec 5, 2006 23:10:19 GMT -5
Agreed about how bad rap is. TBH I think I'd rather listen to an hour of emo than 3 minutes of (c)rap.
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Post by qnx100 on Dec 6, 2006 0:03:23 GMT -5
Rap is, and will always be, my favorite type of music. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, as I know few of you will. Maybe it's where I come from - I don't know - but the urban genre has appealed to me for my whole life, and that's not changing anytime soon.
Still, I can appreciate practically any type of music, with the exception of some AC borefests and the screamfests that have dominated the Modern Rock format for the past couple of years.
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plannine
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Post by plannine on Dec 6, 2006 8:49:30 GMT -5
Rap is, and will always be, my favorite type of music. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, as I know few of you will. Maybe it's where I come from - I don't know - but the urban genre has appealed to me for my whole life, and that's not changing anytime soon. Still, I can appreciate practically any type of music, with the exception of some AC borefests and the screamfests that have dominated the Modern Rock format for the past couple of years. I will listen to almost anything. And i've seen the best and the worst of almost every style of music live. (the worst being 2 Live Crew, REO Speedwagon or Lynyrd Sknyrd, the best being the LSO [London Symphony Orchestra] Johnny Cash, John Lee Hooker or Miles Davis). I've never bought the 'where im from' excuse for anything. . I grew up with classical, the lightest MOR and klezmer, but my true love has been the blues.It's not where im from or where ive been, it just the music (& musicians) that shown the most expression and feeling to me. When I look at my 45's, LP's & CD's, they heavily lean to artists & performances of 1966-75. But they are somewhat evenly divided between the different formats of the time. Pop, R&B, Country, Jazz, MOR & Classical. Top 40 radio (use to) should expose listerners to all sorts of music across many formats, not just a single vain. I will be the first to say, i have contempt for almost any format that is marketed/pushed to be dominate on "Top 40" radio. Disco, Urban Country, Easy Rock, BubbleGum, Rap etc. When the balance tends to sway too much one way or another, i tend to sway more in the opposite direction. I enjoy the bubblegum of 1968 today, i just dont enjoy todays equal. Around here, i am critical. Somebody has to be Simon in a room full of Paula's. And I can & will disagree with myself. That happens when you examine everything independent of your own thinking. Example: The James Blunt album is full of hit singles. Thats cause every song sounds the same. I could go on & on (and i think i have). I guess in the end, i dont make a connection between rap to singing. Maybe with yodleing. But not singing. I guess a better discussion should be: what constitutes "pop music" (whether its call Top 40 or CHR or what)? Anything thats popular by a specific audience or everything that is equally popular over all audiences.
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plannine
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Post by plannine on Dec 6, 2006 9:01:10 GMT -5
Agreed about how bad rap is. TBH I think I'd rather listen to an hour of emo than 3 minutes of (c)rap. While im still not sure exactly what emo is (the problem with getting old), every once in a while, there is a outstanding piece of music coming out of the rap arena. but many of the times, it;s just a piece of familiar music that is appealing and very dance ready. (it's all in the beat - the music and words are pretty much meaningless and ignored by many who enjoy the very danceable beats)
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Post by plannine on Dec 6, 2006 11:21:06 GMT -5
One final comment - at least the NAS song talks about something other then bling and butts.......
"If hip hop should die before I wake I'll put an extended clip inside of my AK Roll to every station, murder the DJ "
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The Velvet Rope
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Post by The Velvet Rope on Dec 6, 2006 12:24:59 GMT -5
Honestly, I think that ultimately, what it all comes down to is that there are different strokes for different folks, and thank God for that, because if everyone liked the same thing, it'd be a pretty boring world. Some people enjoy listening to rappers talk about their ice and grillz. Some would prefer to rock out to the Sex Pistols. You like what you like!
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Post by Jason on Dec 6, 2006 13:19:18 GMT -5
Very well said, Angela! As for the song, I like it. But I doubt it'll be an Urban AIRPLAY hit. He's railing against commercial/watered-down Hip-Hop, which is what radio stations are playing right now, for the most part. So I can't see it having much of an airplay life. The same thing happened to Method Man's "Say," which was about similar subject matter. If it's made available on vinyl or for download, I would expect sales to be quite high.
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