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Post by Cody on Aug 3, 2013 17:20:20 GMT -5
So as anyone who knew me before my return from my near 3-year hiatus will know, rock and alternative music is kinda my thing. Now since around the time I left at the beginning of the summer of 2010, a sort of "revolution" on Alternative radio started to happen, where the format separated itself from the Active Rock format. Case and point here would be that the core Active Rock bands such as Three Days Grace and Shinedown are no longer achieving the same success on Alternative as they did a few years back. I guess this is a good thing, as ever since this has occurred, actual Alternative bands are getting the radio airplay they deserve, and it actually makes sense for both formats to exist.
Now I'm just rambling, so I'll get to my point here. Ever since this "revolution" has occurred, Alternative music has been crossing over to CHR/Hot AC radio all the time, but I can'r off the top of my head think of any significant Active Rock crossover hits since "If You Only Knew" by Shinedown in 2010, when on the other hand I can name a ton of Alternative crossover pop hits since then.
So I guess my question is why Active Rock bands are having such a tough time getting crossover hits, when before 2010 there used to be at least 3-4 significant ones per year.
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Post by JessieLou on Aug 3, 2013 18:40:12 GMT -5
Honestly, because the majority of mainstream rock these days is obnoxious "cock rock" - I, too, used to follow the rock charts, but mainstream rock became obnoxious and modern rock became indie. And PLEASE don't even get me started on today's metal.
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Post by Cody on Aug 3, 2013 19:53:48 GMT -5
Yes but "cock rock" has to an extent become less common on the rock charts over the last year or so. I think Saving Abel was the last successful cock rock crossover IIRC. My bigger concern is with issues such as Shinedown not even being able to crack friggin Hot AC with Unity of I'll Follow You, or how Adelitas Way couldn't come close with Last Stand or Alive. 3 Doors Down couldn't get back to CHR with When You Were Young, and TDG and TOAD flopped with their most recent attempts at making it on pop radio. I personally don't see the material as having gotten worse, it's just weird how it's been years since the format and it's core artists have been able to crack the pop charts.
And yes lol, today's metal is in rough shape, and that's an understatement.
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Post by Scott on Aug 4, 2013 14:31:09 GMT -5
And PLEASE don't even get me started on today's metal. Today's metal is more than just old or "classic" bands trying to make a comeback by releasing terrible albums. There's a ton of modern bands that make great music, you just have to look for them because radio won't touch them.
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Post by Scott on Aug 4, 2013 14:41:59 GMT -5
a sort of "revolution" on Alternative radio started to happen, where the format separated itself from the Active Rock format. Case and point here would be that the core Active Rock bands such as Three Days Grace and Shinedown are no longer achieving the same success on Alternative as they did a few years back. I guess this is a good thing, as ever since this has occurred, actual Alternative bands are getting the radio airplay they deserve, and it actually makes sense for both formats to exist. It was about time too! It's a huge pet peeve to see Alternative radio stations playing (mostly) what essentially is rock/active rock and AC.
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Post by Green Baron on Sept 27, 2014 21:37:36 GMT -5
a sort of "revolution" on Alternative radio started to happen, where the format separated itself from the Active Rock format. Case and point here would be that the core Active Rock bands such as Three Days Grace and Shinedown are no longer achieving the same success on Alternative as they did a few years back. I guess this is a good thing, as ever since this has occurred, actual Alternative bands are getting the radio airplay they deserve, and it actually makes sense for both formats to exist. It was about time too! It's a huge pet peeve to see Alternative radio stations playing (mostly) what essentially is rock/active rock and AC. It's a pet peeve for Alternative to play good songs? Ok. Fine then.
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Post by Scott on Sept 28, 2014 16:31:34 GMT -5
It was about time too! It's a huge pet peeve to see Alternative radio stations playing (mostly) what essentially is rock/active rock and AC. It's a pet peeve for Alternative to play good songs? Ok. Fine then. "Good" is subjective. It's not too much to ask an Alternative radio station to play alternative music.
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Post by Green Baron on Sept 28, 2014 16:53:30 GMT -5
It's a pet peeve for Alternative to play good songs? Ok. Fine then. "Good" is subjective. It's not too much to ask an Alternative radio station to play alternative music. But Alternative is in a rut right now. They flop singles from core bands, which is unfair, and they also don't have enough Active crossovers, which sucks. Plus most of the songs are so poppy you'd wonder why they're not on Hot AC. There's nothing wrong with Alternative playing songs from Active Rock, especially if those songs are good.
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Post by J.T. on Oct 3, 2014 20:12:30 GMT -5
"Yeah, but isn't Nickelback blowing up right now?" I'm sorry, I can't even write that with a straight face.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 4, 2014 16:14:40 GMT -5
"Yeah, but isn't Nickelback blowing up right now?" I'm sorry, I can't even write that with a straight face. That's one song. Honestly both formats are the shittiest they've been in a while.
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Post by Cody on Oct 4, 2014 16:24:48 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Alternative playing songs from Active Rock, especially if those songs are good. as long as those songs are alternative in some way Agreed.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 4, 2014 19:22:28 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Alternative playing songs from Active Rock, especially if those songs are good. as long as those songs are alternative in some way Agreed. oh god, you discovered my ranting thread on this site now
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 20:02:31 GMT -5
Agreed. oh god, you discovered my ranting thread on this site now I'm surprised there's only one, to be honest.
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Post by Green Baron on Oct 4, 2014 21:28:50 GMT -5
oh god, you discovered my ranting thread on this site now I'm surprised there's only one, to be honest. Lighting the fire.
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Post by MIKEB on Oct 4, 2014 23:21:31 GMT -5
Why is it unfair for a radio format to not play hits by previously or former core artists?
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